Well I was just trying to follow his thought process, you know I wouldn't use the word in a derogatory sense! I'm married to a man! And I sort of forgot about the name thing...

Yeah. You're right. He is a good man. I just feel...I don't know. Joe was my 'father' for a lot of years and if he's saying that about Julian, I'm feeling the disapproval in stead and it sucks.