Date: 2009-01-20 12:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] father-peter.livejournal.com
Thomas, I don't think anyone could be ashamed of you.

Date: 2009-01-20 12:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suave-thomas.livejournal.com
But if he's telling his colleagues Julian's straight and he has this fag brother who has a famous husband...fuck, what does he say about me?! Does he deny we're related?!

Date: 2009-01-20 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] father-peter.livejournal.com
Don't say fag, Thomas. And the name of the man who married Adrian is 'Ashley Bigglesby' so they wouldn't know you were related to him.

That being said, I know that wasn't your point at all anyway. Thomas, if Joe really is telling the people he works with that Julian is straight, then he's making a mistake. But he's a good man. And he loves you. Joe will own up to what he's done because that's what good men do. And he will make it clear just how much you mean to him.

Date: 2009-01-20 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suave-thomas.livejournal.com
Well I was just trying to follow his thought process, you know I wouldn't use the word in a derogatory sense! I'm married to a man! And I sort of forgot about the name thing...

Yeah. You're right. He is a good man. I just feel...I don't know. Joe was my 'father' for a lot of years and if he's saying that about Julian, I'm feeling the disapproval in stead and it sucks.

Date: 2009-01-20 12:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] father-peter.livejournal.com
I certainly know how fatherly disapproval feels.

Thomas, this will clear up in a few days. It always does. I'm not saying what he did was okay. But things will right.

Date: 2009-01-21 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] in-spectre-mors.livejournal.com
I couldn't possibly imagine that, Thomas. There is absolutely nothing about you that is deserving of shame. I don't know what Joe is thinking, but I'm sure it's not that.

I love you, Thomas. Anyone who could be ashamed of you desperately needs their head examined.

Date: 2009-01-21 09:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suave-thomas.livejournal.com
But if he's ashamed of Julian, how could he not be ashamed of me because I'm married to a man. I'm not gay. Though closed-minded people don't much see the difference. And if they don't, what if he doesn't.

Spectre, I need him to love me.

Date: 2009-01-21 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] in-spectre-mors.livejournal.com
Joe has always been a friend to me, even a brother, and he's most certainly always been that to you. I just find it hard to believe that it wouldn't have come up before now if he really felt this way. I feel like there must be another influence at work here. As Peter said, Joe does love you. I'm sure of it. We just need to find out what his problem is.

Date: 2009-01-21 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suave-thomas.livejournal.com
Okay. Okay, yes. We can do that.

I feel like I am ten years old again and Joe's all angry because I took his money. Which was on accident, but he didn't believe me (I thought someone had dropped it, I really did) and he was so disappointed in me and...it's just horrible.

Date: 2009-01-21 11:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] in-spectre-mors.livejournal.com
I'm so sorry you're feeling that way, Thomas. But you're not the one to be disappointed in this time. You've done nothing wrong. I absolutely understand where you're coming from, though. There's little worse than feeling marginalised by your own family. I can imagine it's even worse when it comes so unexpectedly.

Date: 2009-01-21 11:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suave-thomas.livejournal.com
Yeah. I think I might sleep with James tonight.

Date: 2009-01-21 12:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suave-thomas.livejournal.com
Oh, Jesus, please don't think this is because I'm ashamed of you. Never. I just want to be with James. You can be there too.

Date: 2009-01-21 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] in-spectre-mors.livejournal.com
I didn't think it was about me, but thank you. You're quite right, I think James' presence would be most comforting tonight.

I'm very secure in your love for me, Thomas. But thank you again for making sure. I always appreciate that very deeply. And I love you too.

Date: 2009-01-21 12:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suave-thomas.livejournal.com
I just needed to make sure you knew. I think the presence of both of you is the most comforting thing there is.

Date: 2009-01-21 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] in-spectre-mors.livejournal.com
And it is most certainly reciprocal, my dear husband.

Date: 2009-01-21 09:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] empress-tasha.livejournal.com
You're not the one anyone ought to be ashamed of. I don't want to make any great leaps of judgement before I hear Joe's side, but I will say this: it had better be a damn good one.

Date: 2009-01-21 09:57 am (UTC)

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